I'm no EV car Evangelist, but this is still pretty cool...

"RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars" (rallydarkstrike)
09/23/2019 at 20:34 • Filed to: EV, Batteries

https://gizmodo.com/new-research-promises-electric-car-batteries-that-last-1838357663

!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!

Also cool is that Dalhousie University is like 1 hour away from me! Score one for the little province of Nova Scotia! :)

Now to work the charging times down to a full charge in less than 5 minutes equivalent to gas or diesel and vastly improve the infrastructure in North America...

DISCUSSION (18)

SiennaMan > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
09/23/2019 at 20:52

This is great news for the jalops of the 2050s and very cool development ..

I think 500k life might be enough though if we can crack the ultra fast charging nut, approx. 300 miles in 5 minutes..

boredalways > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
09/23/2019 at 20:54

While that is nice, I think I would rather have a battery that is capable of going a minimum 500 miles between charges first.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > SiennaMan
09/23/2019 at 21:12

Yup, the two big hurdles to me are the fast-charging getting down to gasoline equivalent and the BIG one is infrastructure...it is just not there at all (at least here in Canada) to support mass EV use and will need a LOT of development in the coming years...

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > boredalways
09/23/2019 at 21:13

I’d say 600km to a charge would be OK for me...most common non-hybrid, vehicles can get that to a tank nowadays. The other thing that would be important is range related to temperature....don’t electric cars take a massive range dip when cold weather hits?

Snuze: Needs another Swede > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
09/23/2019 at 21:14

Now, the important thing... how is it pronounced? Dal-house? Dal-hous-ie? Dah-loy-se?

SiennaMan > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
09/23/2019 at 21:24

It's not there south of border either. That said, I think if someone figured out that 5 minute 300 mile charge, I think the infrastructure would get built rapidly, especially at gas stations since it'd be a natural progression from their current business model..

SiennaMan > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
09/23/2019 at 21:25

They do, which is why you'd want to get to 500 miles per charge, so that you were still around 300 per in winter..

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Snuze: Needs another Swede
09/23/2019 at 21:26

Haha, it’s pronounced ‘Dahl-how-zee’ :)

It was founded and named for this dude:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ramsay,_9th_Earl_of_Dalhousie

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > SiennaMan
09/23/2019 at 21:40

Is the hit really that huge? That’s a pretty big gap...

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > SiennaMan
09/23/2019 at 21:41

Maybe so, and since it’s just a cable and plug (really), you could just attach them to the side of normal gas pumps until ICE cars eventually get phased out...

someassemblyrequired > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
09/23/2019 at 21:51

In warmer temps, you can use the A/C system as a heat pump, which is pretty efficient (~5x heat for every unit of energy used by the AC). But when it gets super cold (below -15c), you have to use a resistance heater, which dramatically reduces range (as energy in = heat out).

SiennaMan > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
09/23/2019 at 21:55

I don’t know how it scales (so I might be assuming percentages when it'd be raw miles), but I know the real world articles I read from a year or three ago the 80ish mile range cars were down under 50..

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > SiennaMan
09/23/2019 at 22:20

Wow, that’s almost half...

boredalways > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
09/23/2019 at 22:29

Yep, when it’s really hot, too.*

In regards to the range since most EVs can get a 3/4+ fast charge in 30-60 minutes, I would rather go further than stop more often.

*I could be wrong

JMordu becoming “savethemilanos” > boredalways
09/23/2019 at 22:56

Not wrong, my ELR does less than 30 miles electric on a 40 degree day (and uses the motor as a heater whenever it’s under 32), 45 or so when it’s 60-75 out (and I don’t use any heat or AC), and just under 40 by the time it’s 85 out and sunny. Not sure how much is battery vs AC related on the hot days, but I certainly notice when it gets hotter the range falls faster

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > JMordu becoming “savethemilanos”
09/24/2019 at 05:24

Ouch...hopefully that tech will improve as well then!

Snuze: Needs another Swede > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
09/24/2019 at 09:17

Thanks! When I was working up there us Americans were struggling to figure out how to pronounce it.

They do some really cool research there, this long life battery stuff is pretty neat!

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Snuze: Needs another Swede
09/24/2019 at 17:35

Yeah, Dal actually does some pretty world-class stuff from time to time!